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Muy, pero que muy buenas de nuevo.Los más veteranos del lugar ya me conocen.
Soy JV (y como sabéis el numeral ha ido creciendo de número coincidiendo con cambios de la taberna o de barco).
También, como es público, un día cogí tremendo rebote y decidí no volver a escribir aquí, aunque les haya seguido siguiendo leyendo.
Pero otro enorme rebote me hace volver a escribir de nuevo aquí, en esta casa.La noticia se publica en:
O lo que es lo mismo, los suizos lo han conseguido, han convencido a la administración española para que haga legal el mayor fraude de la historia permitido a ricos, y a los aficionados de siempre, con normas absurdas, con titulaciones sin lógica y con impuesto de matriculación, que nos den por culo como siempre.
Como todos saben, en España para que un yate no nacional pueda hacer chater, tiene que:
1. Haber pagado impuesto de matriculación en España, y
2. Cumplir con toda la legislación española, llevando a bordo todos los medios de seguridad y contra contaminación (incluido tanque KK)
Y como en todo el mundo, según convenios internacionales, nadie puede llevar más de 12 pasajeros sin que se le considere buque de pasaje y se le aplique su norma.
Pues en Valencia, se autoriza con motivo de la copa américa la exención de cumplir con 1 y 2 a los yates no nacionales.
Además los de hasta 500 GT de arqueo podrán llevar hasta 36 pasajeros (saltándose incluso a la torera las normas de seguridad y estabilidad de las banderas de origen).Pero piensen en un detalle, hablamos en principio de megayates, buques de más de 25 millones de euros de valor en el mercado.
Es decir, que la exención que se les hace del impuesto de matriculación, superará los 3 millones de euros por unidad (que dejará de recaudar la hacienda española).
Estamos hablando de más de 1.000 millones de euros que hacienda dejará de ingresar.Además, excursiones contratadas en el extranjero a empresas armadoras en paraísos fiscales, con lo que hacienda tampoco verá ni IRPF, ni IVAS de estos ricos visitantes.
Si lo más barato que se habla, en estos yates, es de 1.500 euros/día/persona. Hablamos de unos ingresos mínimos de 72.000 euros por yate y día (y esto en los más más más baratos de estos).
Mientras, en España, todo el que se compre un barquito, que pague IVA, matrícula, tasas de señalización, se ponga tanque KK, y que no se olvide del aro salvavidas.
Bienvenido Mr. MARSHAL(Digno de una peli de Berlanga)
Every yacht that wants to charter in Spain needs a charter license, both Spanish yachts and yachts registered in other EU countries. An owner or operator needs to comply with a series of requirements to get a charter license, the most important ones are: If a yacht wants to charter in Spain, it needs a charter license and to pay the matriculation tax. These are actually two separate issues.Tax registration in Spain Third-party liability insurance Official translation of the yacht’s registration Certificate of inspection to make sure the yacht complies with laws for prevention of contamination A Commercial Seaworthiness Certificate from flag state, with an official translation. For example, MCA certificate. l There are also some duties. All non-Spanish documents must be presented with an official translation. Once all the paperwork is complete, it can take between 10 days and four weeks to get the license from the Government Department of Transport. The license is usually valid for as long as the commercial seaworthiness certificate is valid. Although this is a tedious procedure it is perfectly feasible for a yacht to get a charter license.Matriculation tax:In Spain, there is a double taxation on cars, planes and yachts. Not only the VAT has to be paid, but on top of that a 12 percent matriculation tax. According to Spanish law, the tax is due on every yacht, commercial or private, that is registered in Spain, used in Spain by a Spanish resident or used in Spain by an owner that has an establishment in Spain. If a yacht has a charter license, it will have always have a Spanish tax registration. That means that the owner/operator is established in Spain, and so the matriculation tax is due. What happens if a yacht comes from another country to do a charter in Spain with embarkation or disembarkation in Spanish waters? Spanish customs interpret that if a charter starts or finishes in Spain, the owner or operator at that moment has an establishment in Spain and therefore the matriculation tax is due. Commercially registered yachts under 15m are exempt.Is this situation going to change? I personally have the impression that yes, the situation will change within the next one or two years. For the first time, there are indications that various sectors of the Spanish society, public and private, are becoming aware of the potential of the yachting industry. This fall, there were various seminars about nautical tourism in the Balearics. During the last year, every boat show in Spain has organized round tables and seminars about yacht charter. The Spanish Institute for Tourism, Turespaña, wants to concentrate the coming five years specifically on attracting golf and nautical tourism. In the Balearics as well, the local government wants to attract high-quality tourism as an alternative to the all-inclusive package-tour tourism.Recently, leaders of the Spanish megayacht industry have founded a Spanish Association for Super Yachts. This association can approach the government in Spain and lobby for the interests of the yachting industry as ECPY does in France. Last but not least, the celebration of the America’s Cup in Spain is boosting the interest in yachting and at the same time makes it urgent for both the industry and politicians to find a solution as quickly as possible.The 32nd Americas CupThe America’s Cup is a high-profile event where both the private and the public sector make huge investments. The whole city of Valencia is being turned around: new marinas are being built, the airport is extended, the whole lay-out of the port has changed and highways are being improved. I don’t think America’s Cup management or politicians have ever realized that the existing regulations regarding yachting and yacht charter would prove to be such an obstacle in finding spectator yachts. As we all know, many yacht owners are hesitant about sending their yachts to Spain.AC management has been negotiating with government officials on all levels during the last year, and just last Friday (April 28) had a decisive meeting with head of customs in Valencia. It has been officially decided that from now on, in Valencia, charter yachts berthed in one of the AC ports will be exempt of the obligation to register in Spain and will be exempt from the matriculation tax.This rule is valid from now until the end of the Acts in July 2007. Not only during the races, but also during training, which means every day from now until July 2007. There is no distinction between EU and non-EU yachts. The one condition is that the yacht has secured a berth in either the VSM or the North or South marinas, which are the America’s Cup marinas. Customs in Valencia will sign an official document for each yacht stating that the yacht is exempt of the matriculation tax. Customs will give a list of all the exempt yachts to the Spanish coast guard so that they will know who is allowed to charter. The other big issue in Valencia is the number of guests yachts can take out. I think we have all received inquiries for AC charters and the majority of these inquiries are for corporate clients who want to take out more than 12 passengers. A new official instruction is in place, as of April 7. It says that any spectator vessel that wishes to sail in the restricted area of the America’s Cup in Valencia must obtain an express authorization directly from the Valencia harbor master’s office.Passenger ships with SOLAS International Certificates will be authorized to take out the maximum number of passengers that appear in their safety certificates. Recreational vessels – yachts – can get an exemption to take out more than 12 passengers, subject to having an exemption of their own flag state. To get the exemption, it is necessary to present an original certificate from the yacht’s own flag state authority with an official translation.The certificate should mention: construction date of the vessel, expiration date of the certificate, maximum number of passengers on deck, minimum crew that must hold STCW78/95 certificates, sailing limits if applicable, and minimum safety, fire safety and rescue equipment.You also need a certificate from the insurance company to cover the excess passengers. This means that if the flag state issues an official exemption, the Valencia harbor master will accept this.All exemptions are limited to the dates of the AC regattas, restricted to daylight hours and to the regatta perimeter. Cabins cannot be used during the trip, weather conditions must be favorable and the exact number of passengers will be registered with the maritime rescue service.Yachts up to 500 GT will only get an exemption for a maximum of 35 passengers and yachts over 500 GT up to 50 passengers. Yachts under 24m will not get permission to take out more guests than normal.Various flag states will issue the exemption, again, only for the dates and location of the America’s Cup regattas: Luxembourg, Malta, Madeira, St. Vincent and Grenadines, Marshall Islands and Isle of Man. The Cayman Islands has said it will follow precedent set by Isle of Man but has not yet been asked to issue one, as far as I know.
Soy JV (y como sabéis el numeral ha ido creciendo de número coincidiendo con cambios de la taberna o de barco).
También, como es público, un día cogí tremendo rebote y decidí no volver a escribir aquí, aunque les haya seguido siguiendo leyendo.
Pero otro enorme rebote me hace volver a escribir de nuevo aquí, en esta casa.La noticia se publica en:
Spain’s matriculation tax excludes Valencia
O lo que es lo mismo, los suizos lo han conseguido, han convencido a la administración española para que haga legal el mayor fraude de la historia permitido a ricos, y a los aficionados de siempre, con normas absurdas, con titulaciones sin lógica y con impuesto de matriculación, que nos den por culo como siempre.
Como todos saben, en España para que un yate no nacional pueda hacer chater, tiene que:
1. Haber pagado impuesto de matriculación en España, y
2. Cumplir con toda la legislación española, llevando a bordo todos los medios de seguridad y contra contaminación (incluido tanque KK)
Y como en todo el mundo, según convenios internacionales, nadie puede llevar más de 12 pasajeros sin que se le considere buque de pasaje y se le aplique su norma.
Pues en Valencia, se autoriza con motivo de la copa américa la exención de cumplir con 1 y 2 a los yates no nacionales.
Además los de hasta 500 GT de arqueo podrán llevar hasta 36 pasajeros (saltándose incluso a la torera las normas de seguridad y estabilidad de las banderas de origen).Pero piensen en un detalle, hablamos en principio de megayates, buques de más de 25 millones de euros de valor en el mercado.
Es decir, que la exención que se les hace del impuesto de matriculación, superará los 3 millones de euros por unidad (que dejará de recaudar la hacienda española).
Estamos hablando de más de 1.000 millones de euros que hacienda dejará de ingresar.Además, excursiones contratadas en el extranjero a empresas armadoras en paraísos fiscales, con lo que hacienda tampoco verá ni IRPF, ni IVAS de estos ricos visitantes.
Si lo más barato que se habla, en estos yates, es de 1.500 euros/día/persona. Hablamos de unos ingresos mínimos de 72.000 euros por yate y día (y esto en los más más más baratos de estos).
Mientras, en España, todo el que se compre un barquito, que pague IVA, matrícula, tasas de señalización, se ponga tanque KK, y que no se olvide del aro salvavidas.
Bienvenido Mr. MARSHAL(Digno de una peli de Berlanga)
Every yacht that wants to charter in Spain needs a charter license, both Spanish yachts and yachts registered in other EU countries. An owner or operator needs to comply with a series of requirements to get a charter license, the most important ones are: If a yacht wants to charter in Spain, it needs a charter license and to pay the matriculation tax. These are actually two separate issues.Tax registration in Spain Third-party liability insurance Official translation of the yacht’s registration Certificate of inspection to make sure the yacht complies with laws for prevention of contamination A Commercial Seaworthiness Certificate from flag state, with an official translation. For example, MCA certificate. l There are also some duties. All non-Spanish documents must be presented with an official translation. Once all the paperwork is complete, it can take between 10 days and four weeks to get the license from the Government Department of Transport. The license is usually valid for as long as the commercial seaworthiness certificate is valid. Although this is a tedious procedure it is perfectly feasible for a yacht to get a charter license.Matriculation tax:In Spain, there is a double taxation on cars, planes and yachts. Not only the VAT has to be paid, but on top of that a 12 percent matriculation tax. According to Spanish law, the tax is due on every yacht, commercial or private, that is registered in Spain, used in Spain by a Spanish resident or used in Spain by an owner that has an establishment in Spain. If a yacht has a charter license, it will have always have a Spanish tax registration. That means that the owner/operator is established in Spain, and so the matriculation tax is due. What happens if a yacht comes from another country to do a charter in Spain with embarkation or disembarkation in Spanish waters? Spanish customs interpret that if a charter starts or finishes in Spain, the owner or operator at that moment has an establishment in Spain and therefore the matriculation tax is due. Commercially registered yachts under 15m are exempt.Is this situation going to change? I personally have the impression that yes, the situation will change within the next one or two years. For the first time, there are indications that various sectors of the Spanish society, public and private, are becoming aware of the potential of the yachting industry. This fall, there were various seminars about nautical tourism in the Balearics. During the last year, every boat show in Spain has organized round tables and seminars about yacht charter. The Spanish Institute for Tourism, Turespaña, wants to concentrate the coming five years specifically on attracting golf and nautical tourism. In the Balearics as well, the local government wants to attract high-quality tourism as an alternative to the all-inclusive package-tour tourism.Recently, leaders of the Spanish megayacht industry have founded a Spanish Association for Super Yachts. This association can approach the government in Spain and lobby for the interests of the yachting industry as ECPY does in France. Last but not least, the celebration of the America’s Cup in Spain is boosting the interest in yachting and at the same time makes it urgent for both the industry and politicians to find a solution as quickly as possible.The 32nd Americas CupThe America’s Cup is a high-profile event where both the private and the public sector make huge investments. The whole city of Valencia is being turned around: new marinas are being built, the airport is extended, the whole lay-out of the port has changed and highways are being improved. I don’t think America’s Cup management or politicians have ever realized that the existing regulations regarding yachting and yacht charter would prove to be such an obstacle in finding spectator yachts. As we all know, many yacht owners are hesitant about sending their yachts to Spain.AC management has been negotiating with government officials on all levels during the last year, and just last Friday (April 28) had a decisive meeting with head of customs in Valencia. It has been officially decided that from now on, in Valencia, charter yachts berthed in one of the AC ports will be exempt of the obligation to register in Spain and will be exempt from the matriculation tax.This rule is valid from now until the end of the Acts in July 2007. Not only during the races, but also during training, which means every day from now until July 2007. There is no distinction between EU and non-EU yachts. The one condition is that the yacht has secured a berth in either the VSM or the North or South marinas, which are the America’s Cup marinas. Customs in Valencia will sign an official document for each yacht stating that the yacht is exempt of the matriculation tax. Customs will give a list of all the exempt yachts to the Spanish coast guard so that they will know who is allowed to charter. The other big issue in Valencia is the number of guests yachts can take out. I think we have all received inquiries for AC charters and the majority of these inquiries are for corporate clients who want to take out more than 12 passengers. A new official instruction is in place, as of April 7. It says that any spectator vessel that wishes to sail in the restricted area of the America’s Cup in Valencia must obtain an express authorization directly from the Valencia harbor master’s office.Passenger ships with SOLAS International Certificates will be authorized to take out the maximum number of passengers that appear in their safety certificates. Recreational vessels – yachts – can get an exemption to take out more than 12 passengers, subject to having an exemption of their own flag state. To get the exemption, it is necessary to present an original certificate from the yacht’s own flag state authority with an official translation.The certificate should mention: construction date of the vessel, expiration date of the certificate, maximum number of passengers on deck, minimum crew that must hold STCW78/95 certificates, sailing limits if applicable, and minimum safety, fire safety and rescue equipment.You also need a certificate from the insurance company to cover the excess passengers. This means that if the flag state issues an official exemption, the Valencia harbor master will accept this.All exemptions are limited to the dates of the AC regattas, restricted to daylight hours and to the regatta perimeter. Cabins cannot be used during the trip, weather conditions must be favorable and the exact number of passengers will be registered with the maritime rescue service.Yachts up to 500 GT will only get an exemption for a maximum of 35 passengers and yachts over 500 GT up to 50 passengers. Yachts under 24m will not get permission to take out more guests than normal.Various flag states will issue the exemption, again, only for the dates and location of the America’s Cup regattas: Luxembourg, Malta, Madeira, St. Vincent and Grenadines, Marshall Islands and Isle of Man. The Cayman Islands has said it will follow precedent set by Isle of Man but has not yet been asked to issue one, as far as I know.
la Copa me ha encarecido todo), que es un exito y superrentable para Valencia y para España, ( otra cosa es que más adelante también pidamos la independencia, y la incorporacion de Cataluña
a nuestro Reino,
al fin y al cabo sólo era un condado
, jjjjeeejeje, ese dia estare alli, no quiero ser el ultimo español, jejej
). 
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